the ultamate porteable media player......wishlist
Jun 28, 2010 at 6:20 AM Thread Starter Post #1 of 15

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If you could design the ultimate personal media player (UMP?), what features would it have?
Size?
UI?
Chipset(s)?
inputs?
Outputs?
features?
 
I have 3 players now, a sonyX, clip+, and a 2Gtouch.
 
Outside of the hifiman HM-801, (witch is pushing it for portable) seems most DAP's are a collection of compremises in on way or another.
 
My personal UMP:
Basically an IPOD Touch, 64 or more MB. ONLY:
able to play FLAC
external pause play and skip forward/back buttons ( like the sony X)
Line out without resorting to a dock like connector ( something like the Flo 2 )
Balanced ouput option on the HO and LO
digital out ( either optical or other ) for use with external DAC/amp  ( like the new JH-3A or desktop set up )
Much better amp on HO, more like the sonyX
a removable mini SD card ( like the CLIP+ only with more seemless integration)
 
While the Hifiman does address a lot of these issues, the UI is crude, it is big, It is more just a dedicated music player, witch is a plus for a lot of people, but I love the swiss army like coolness of my touch ( just not fond of the SQ at all ). Plus the mifiman's internal and swappable amp card is a really cool feature, but i think some would prefer a smaller player, w/o the amp, to give more freedom in choosing an external amp. and longer battery life.
 
For a dedicated player, i love my clip BTW.
 
What would yours look like?
 
 
 
Jun 28, 2010 at 10:36 AM Post #4 of 15
There are already quite a few threads on this, but meh.
 
Quote:
Basically an IPOD Touch, 64 or more MB. 


Not much space though huh?
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I'll admit I want something like an iPod Touch. I like an app store to mess around with. I'd be satisfied if it had Android and could go into the marketplace.
As much as I'd like a PMP to look like Jolie, I don't think it would be practical. It would bring about so many jokes. "Dude, Angelina Jolie is in your pocket isn't she? I see that bulge. Are you at least having fun?"
I very much like the look of the Zune HD, but Android on a Zune would be sacrilege. But Brett Farve is on the Vikings...
I'd like a 128GB SSD in it.
A nice amp inside would be very nice. I wouldn't mind some extra thickness for that.
The battery should last a transpacific flight.
I should be able to pay for it with massages.
 
Jun 28, 2010 at 11:43 AM Post #5 of 15
I'll just make one up - the 'TP3'. It'd be creme/white with TP3 in orange on the back. It'd sound extremely good and have a microsd slot up to 100Gigs., and a touchscreen. and a line out. that's all.
 
Jun 28, 2010 at 6:11 PM Post #6 of 15
My ideal?
 
Defaults to a watch/calendar display.  Comes with a nice watchband. Still has a 3" screen or better. Has a nice curved shape that wraps landscape around your forearm.  Has 3G/4G for access to my media collection on the cloud no matter where I am.  Optional Zune Pass for music I don't already own.  Sounds as good as my SFlo-2 line-out amped to my Sennheiser HD595s, no matter what headphones I'm wearing.  Projects movies as 3D holograms with no screen required.   Uses ASL for control.
 
Maybe next year.    :wink:   
 
Jul 2, 2010 at 3:21 AM Post #7 of 15
Second-generation Sony X with slightly rearranged hardware buttons and AT LEAST 128GB of memory (my library in lossy AAC is over 140GB now... sigh).
Rockbox would be great, but i'm fine with X original firmware as well.
 
Jul 2, 2010 at 4:26 PM Post #8 of 15
Gapless playback.  That's my number one concern.  If it doesn't have gapless playback for all supported file types, including the lossy files, I don't want it no matter how good it is otherwise.
 
Feb 10, 2012 at 5:04 PM Post #9 of 15


Quote:
My ideal?
 
Defaults to a watch/calendar display.  Comes with a nice watchband. Still has a 3" screen or better. Has a nice curved shape that wraps landscape around your forearm.  Has 3G/4G for access to my media collection on the cloud no matter where I am.  Optional Zune Pass for music I don't already own.  Sounds as good as my SFlo-2 line-out amped to my Sennheiser HD595s, no matter what headphones I'm wearing.  Projects movies as 3D holograms with no screen required.   Uses ASL for control.
 
Maybe next year.    :wink:   


Sounds nice. Put my name down for one too.
 
 
Feb 13, 2012 at 4:04 PM Post #10 of 15
Interesting thread, I have been considering this since I joined head-fi. Many PMP's have been released since then, some close to my "UMP," but none quite there yet.
 
In the end, my UMP would be pretty similar to OP's:
 
[size=medium]-20+ hours battery life
-ID3 tag functionality*
-external physical buttons (lock, volume, <, play, >)
-multiple on-the-go playlists*
-drag-and-drop file transfer functionality*
-line-out (s/pdif output a bonus)
-expandable memory slot (microSD)
-replayGain support*
-gapless playback*
[/size]

[size=medium]-not an iPod[/size]
[size=medium]-reliable/responsive UI experience[/size]
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*can be fixed with proper software (e.g. rockbox)​
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It seems like an easy enough list, but in reality only the Fuze + LOD comes close to meeting these requirements. Teclast T51 misses on UI and battery life. Fiio X3 looked like it was going to be the one, but got discontinued. iBasso DX100 misses on battery life. Sony Walkman Z misses external buttons and SD support. Cowon J3 lacks a true line out (although it's HPO is quite clean), and multiple playlist support. Cowon D3 on paper is what I want, but the horror stories keep me away. The Z2 fixes those problems, but ditches the s/pdif output.
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So my quest (or waiting game, rather) for the perfect UMP continues....
 
Feb 21, 2012 at 6:28 PM Post #14 of 15
32GB + SDXC-slot
>30h real battery life while playing flac 
no ******* touchscreen
tactile buttons
full file support for flac and ogg
no useless video-crap 
 
basically a modernized sansa fuze. 
 
Feb 22, 2012 at 7:18 AM Post #15 of 15
- waterproof titanium body
- powered by AA batteries, use enough of them to get around 30 hours of playback
- oldfashioned LCD, with backlight
- buttons, no touchscreen
- volume wheel
- at least one (full size) SDXC card slot
- support for mp3 and FLAC
- gapless playback
- support for a decent inline remote, like those used on Minidisc portables
- folder and tag-based navigation
- mass storage, drag&drop
- standby mode like on the Sony PCM-M10 (effectively offering instant on while not needing a recharge for months when sleeping)
- good sound quality
- good volume: have an option to evade EU volume cap, either by some region settings, or sell without headphones like it is done with recorders
 

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