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Offline chihaxinhTopic starter

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Pls help me repair Tektronix TDS 380
« on: January 13, 2015, 03:07:40 pm »

Hi All

I have one TDS 380 - Power up OK - when display power up - Seft test OK everything


But when i go to diagnostic menu and run one test . I have Acquisition Error , pls see picture below


I a have another problem , i attach prober to sample signal , i don't see square wave in any CH1 or CH2 . But when i attach probe from another OSC to sample signal. Every thing ok - We have 5V square wave OK


I give more information , show in diagnostic log







It's show many error about :
- Save/recall memory error
-diagAcq - acqMemData
-diagAcq - acqMemPat
-diagAcq - acqMemAddr
-diagAcq - tbcDataRDBack
-diagAcq - fastFisoAcq
-diagAcq - fisoShortPipe
-diagAcq - fisoCell
-diagAcq - peakdetectAcq

Pls help me to check error and repair TDS 380, i open case and looking around , every ok , no resistor burn, no leak cap, every track and via ok . Solder pad, via look like new :|

Sorry for my English , i live in VietNam and speaking english not well !  :)
Many tks you so much !
Best Regards
Nam Nguyen Hai
 

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Re: Pls help me repair Tektronix TDS 380
« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2015, 03:25:54 am »
I give more information






 

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Re: Pls help me repair Tektronix TDS 380
« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2015, 04:43:40 am »
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Re: Pls help me repair Tektronix TDS 380
« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2015, 06:38:50 am »
@tautech

Yes, i have service manual . Could you have guide me how to check and repair TDS 380

I see in mainboard block diagram , TDS have 7 block
- Atten
- Sample
- Timebase
- Display
- Triger
- Triger Time
- CPU

My plant it's
- Open case , cleaning pcb by compress air
- Cleaning all componant contact by isopropyl Alcohol
- Using compress air for dry and heatup mainboard by sun or glass bulk
- Next step it's check all voltage provice for mainboard
- Very carefully check contact of U204 in Sample Driver ( Attenuators Module)
- Very carefuly check contact with Sampler module and Timebase .
- Next step it's check clock generator in Timebase

Anybody have other suggestions?

Many tks so much !
Best regards
Nam Nguyen Hai
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Re: Pls help me repair Tektronix TDS 380
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2015, 07:49:19 am »
Other suggestions?

Yes.

Replace ALL the electrolytics if they are surface mount because the TDS 300 and 400 series have issues with those caps leaking and eating traces.

I bought a TDS 460 a while back that failed aquisition and those caps were the cause.
 

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Re: Pls help me repair Tektronix TDS 380
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2015, 08:05:13 am »
Other suggestions?

Yes.

Replace ALL the electrolytics if they are surface mount because the TDS 300 and 400 series have issues with those caps leaking and eating traces.

I bought a TDS 460 a while back that failed aquisition and those caps were the cause.

Hi xwarp
I open case and see mainboard pcb , don't have any smd electrolytics capacitor exception 3 through hole capacitor near Hybrid Input module ( BNC input )

C220 C219 C218 - Figure 9-11 A13 Mainboard  - 220uF / ?V

Many thanks you so much !
Best regards
Nam Nguyen Hai
 

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Re: Pls help me repair Tektronix TDS 380
« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2015, 08:18:19 am »
I had a similar issue on my TDS340. Eventually just bought a TDS360 main board to replace it from ebay. Worked a charm :)
 

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Re: Pls help me repair Tektronix TDS 380
« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2015, 04:18:08 pm »
Had similar errors on TDS460.  Replaced SMT electrolytic capacitors on all boards.  Good as new.

Can you open it up and take some pictures of the acquisition board?

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Re: Pls help me repair Tektronix TDS 380
« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2015, 01:58:47 am »
Buy new mainboard it's not my choice :D

Here it's picture mainboard of TDS 380 - Org , Org with caption and Mainboard TDS320 ( look like TDS380) . Picture i take on internet ( PCB have only 3 Electrolytic Cap in atten Module )







Thank you so much !
Best regards
Nam Nguyen Hai
 

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Re: Pls help me repair Tektronix TDS 380
« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2015, 07:09:58 am »
Save Recall Mem Err ...

Could it be the "Dallas" Battery Ram on the board ?

What's the datecode on that ?

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Re: Pls help me repair Tektronix TDS 380
« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2015, 07:32:05 am »
Thank bingo600

In to night i will take some picture and give you more information !

Have you any suggestion about Fiso Error and MemData Addr

I hope 3 Memory DRAM don't broken or die ,  finding part replacement so hard because machine very old ( >=20 years)

Many tks so much!
Best regards
Nam Nguyen Hai
 

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Re: Pls help me repair Tektronix TDS 380
« Reply #11 on: March 18, 2015, 03:32:40 pm »
I've same problem !

Help !!!  :-[

@chihaxinh ( VietNamese ) : Không bi?t b?n ?ã s?a ???c ch?a, cái c?a tôi c?ng b? tr??ng h?p y chang ... có kinh nghi?m gì chia s? cho mình v?i. Mình loay hoay c? bu?i nh?ng ch?a tìm ???c gi?i pháp !
 

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Re: Pls help me repair Tektronix TDS 380
« Reply #12 on: March 19, 2015, 02:33:21 am »
Hi Eva

my email it's: namnh10@gmail.com. We can make private converstation, it's english 4rum and not comfortable to use vietnamese language in here.

I replace ADC but not help , hope you can describle more detail about your error.
 

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Re: Pls help me repair Tektronix TDS 380
« Reply #13 on: March 19, 2015, 05:03:52 am »
Hi chihaxinh
My problem fixed !  ( For hardwork last night )  :-DD ...  My TDS is same problem 100% ,  Remove AS7C164    ( SRAM Acquisition memory -  by hot air ) , insert to new one.   That's It !!!

Maybe AS7C164 hard for find ...  contact me,  Email : dientuqueduong@yahoo.com    ( Phu Thuy - Gia Lam - HaNoi ) ,  I used MB8464A-10L   ( Fujitsu ) from Old industrial Computer Board,  sent to you Free.

Packake MB8464A more larger AS7C164 but fit OK with PIN Wrap !  ( and with access time 10ns ... performance good same as -12JC of AS7C164 ( I thinked) .
(I will recalib my and Check more ( Power Failed ++ )  ( mistek repair last night ) .  Boot up warning but work OK and trully work.
 

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Re: Pls help me repair Tektronix TDS 380
« Reply #14 on: March 19, 2015, 05:11:26 am »
Chihaxinh Contact me (Phone) : 090.496.4977  ( Que Duong - Que Duong Electronics ) if you want !
 

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Re: Pls help me repair Tektronix TDS 380
« Reply #15 on: March 19, 2015, 05:44:47 am »
After SPC test signal pass,  ALL OK.  My TDS like New  :clap:

Thanks ALL !  I'm verry happy !!!  >:D
 

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Re: Pls help me repair Tektronix TDS 380
« Reply #16 on: March 19, 2015, 06:07:26 am »
Many thanks QueDuong ! I have one AS7C164 , tonigh i will replace and report for you !  :D

Very happy with your help !

Many thank so much again !  >:D
 


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